29. Vince Carter. 96. Dr. John and the Miracles Lloyd Price: 4/10 Where would you change things up? Muddy Waters (Level 5) Madonna should not even be there and in the pyramid's scheme she is higher that Frank Zappa and Jefferson Airplane? He could've gone anywhere, but to Golden State and nobody would've held a grudge outside of those weirdos in Oklahoma. Queen: 10/10 Were they just dominant at times? 8. Didn't hit up any neighbors or anything. Nina Simone Journey, Posted by Donnie on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 22:34pm. Paul Simon: 8/10 LEVEL 3 ?? (when you say the U.K., does this include Australia? Best hip-hop act: The Beastie Boys, Public Enemy, Run DMC. For now, he just misses the cut. Janis Joplin ELO, Joan Baez, Yes, Tupac Shakur, Journey, Pearl Jam, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, Sister Rosetta Thorpe, The Cars, Nina Simone, Moody Blues. Meanest: Ike Turner! Argument could be made for a level 5, on the par with James Brown for a mid-career musical reinvention that created a brand new major genre. Jerry Lee Lewis and The Everly Brothers should both go up in their rankings. Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers: 9/10 Most nicest inductee? Level 1: 1995 The Orioles Posted by Michael W on Friday, 05/21/2021 @ 14:58pm. 1988 Les Paul I don't have a good reason to not have Westbrook here. If I had to create a pyramid from this year's nominations alone, this is how I would create it. He's an 11-time All-Star (everyone with 8 or more appearances is in the actual hall) and was the 3rd best player on two Champs and two Finalists. Madonna (Level 4) If artist X is in, why isn't artist Y? Sam Cooke: 10/10 AC/DC: 9/10 Personally, I think they're overvalued in the rankings and undervalued on the pyramid. Level Five: All those folks on the "Ancient Aliens" Series (we'll need some laughs besides the Stooges), Posted by Cheesecrop on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 17:11pm. 1. And to me, the John Stockton vs. Chris Paul debate would be the most important chapter. The Jackson 5: 9/10 The Everly Brothers: 10/10 Carly Simon (Level 1) And I agree, Posted by Roy on Thursday, 07/28/2016 @ 22:10pm. Little Willie John Led Zeppelin Deep Purple a 1???" The only thing that makes sense in this pyramid is that Beatles is the top followed by Led Zeppelin (which should have had the name Pink Floyd next to it followed by Chuck Bery and Dylan--Dylan had some of the best music out there but surely enough it could never be as tight as LZ). Ricky Nelson: 9/10 1989 Bessie Smith Demote. " 48. The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . So that doesn't really mean anything. Although, I'm from Bloomington and John Mellencamp also has a reputation for being a legendary asshole, so he gets an Honorable mention. Martha & The Vandellas: 8/10 on Thursday, 05/20/2021 @ 02:05am. Ramones Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:37pm. Devo (Level 1) KING, Posted by KING on Monday, 06/29/2015 @ 01:24am. The Go-Go's-Level 1 nine inch nails - 2 or 3 They were rarely acclaimed critically and/or commercially. ZZ Top: 7/10 He followed that up with 6 more solid seasons including 2 more All-NBA teams and 3 more All-Star appearances. No. 137. Kevin Garnett, 24. I was given first money of $2,000.000.00 US Dollars and on monthly basis am now paid $20,000.00 USDollars for working for the hood. The Cars- 3 Joan Baez: 6/10 55. Three thousand years ago on a battlefield in ancient Palestine, a shepherd boy felled a mighty warrior with nothing more than a stone and a sling, and Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 04/19/2022 @ 14:18pm, 2022 Nominees: The Velvet Underground As for who I think next year will be: Nirvana, Deep Purple (long overdue, though I wouldn't complain if KISS went instead), some combination of The Cure/Depeche Mode/The Smiths, N.W.A., Chic, Posted by Sam on Thursday, 04/11/2013 @ 12:25pm. Having said that, I wouldn't consider the incorporation of social issues into lyrics a sign of music evolving. 2009 I might be a better athlete than Stockton (not true). Shrewd businessman, but civilized. My favorite inductees: Elton John, Billy Joel, Rush, Sam Cooke, Buddy Holly & The Crickets, Chuck Berry, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Eagles, Crosby, Stills, & Nash, Neil Young, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Doors and several others. Torae, and others. Posted by KXB on Wednesday, 08/3/2016 @ 12:10pm. "What's So Good About Goodbye" Giant Sunflower, The Temptations, Quix*O*Tic Some injury issues, but overblown. Favorite induction year? I do think the pyramid needs serious changes cause gaye, prince, franklin, jackson, bowie, and maybe tupac have overtaken taken some of the 5 in recent years in many ways. Percy Sledge: 2/10 Exactly, Posted by Matthew on Saturday, 05/25/2013 @ 12:13pm. 170. We should be honoring those whose innovations and/or reinventions were based on how the sounds of instruments or the methods in which they were played changed, such as Django Reinhardt's one-of-a-kind gypsy jazz guitar playing or Les Paul's experimentation with overdubbing and other studio techniques. I agree with all the placements this year except Radiohead. Steve Miller: Level 1, Posted by SotN on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 03:31am. 74 Paul McCartney Posted by Mike on Thursday, 05/28/2020 @ 12:15pm, Posted by Frank on Friday, 04/9/2021 @ 04:03am, Cleveland.com put out a ranking of the Performer R&R HoF inductees, "from the best to Bon Jovi" based on, presumably, influence, artistic integrity, I imagine whether they were inducted during a full moon, and of course whether the author(s) liked them. I would like to do the # ratings of performers of every class, for this I'll be giving them a number between 0 -10 out of 10 based on influence & innovation on popular music. I agree with others that acts like Deep Purple, Yes, Nine Inch Nails, Kiss, Miles Davis, T. Rex, Whitney Houston & Nina Simone should be at 2. Overall personality-wise, I'll say Prince. Simmons just completed his BOB 2.0 podcast, and during numerous episodes he will list the specific new Pyramid rankings of 5-10 guys in a row, but I'm curious if anyone has heard all the podcasts & has the new order written down? Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? Jimmy Reed: 8/10 http://www.beatlesebooks.com/hold-on-me, Posted by Bill G on Tuesday, 06/4/2019 @ 22:46pm. Did they hit sell millions of records, have over a dozen hits or win a lot of awards? I love Elton John, but he does not deserve to be ranked higher than Buddy Holly & the Crickets, Black Sabbath, Bo Diddley, Fats Domino, Little Richard, The Byrds, The Doors, and others who are more innovative and influential. 1992 Elmore James 220. After all, I am a huge "progressive rock" supporter, n'est-ce pas? I can't say that I feel the same about Costello being even with The Talking Heads. "I Gotta Dance to Keep From Crying" The Who, Jimmy James. Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 02/26/2018 @ 01:01am. Jackson Browne Parliament-Funkadelic The Zombies: 5/10 In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher, at least, preferably in the middle of the 4th tier, slightly lower than Pink Floyd and slightly below, soon to be inducted, Yes. Del Shannon: 5/10 8. The O'Jays: 7/10 Darlene Love: 3/10 Re: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid Reply #15 on: June 02, 2010, 11:44:59 pm . Posted by EDS on Saturday, 05/5/2018 @ 16:49pm. "Here I Go Again" Chazz Dixon, Carey Bell, A.J. Sorry i number the questions wrong so I come up with a new question for # 5: Among these are: bill Bill Simmons Player Pyramid simmon Today's Top Quizzes in Sports Browse Sports hide this ad Today's Top Quizzes in Basketball Browse Basketball Top Contributed Quizzes in Sports 1 2022 World Cup Stars 2 Name Just One - 10 to 1: Sports 3 Gardiens vs Mbapp 4 World Cup Champions by Poster 5 Name Just One - 10 to 1: NFL 6 Here are the questions: (Yes, feel free to flame me! 2007 Dolly Parton (may argue for level 2 but I feel even being a well-known figure in country does not translate to being "rock royalty" just like Davis, Simone, etc.) 25. If we remove people who probably killed someone from contention, Paul Stanley's complete lack of grace during the induction process stands out. Level 3 Curry has been great for six years. But, to each their own. -Hard to say. a lot of good years for inductions. Brenda Lee Little Richard: 10/10 69. The Police: 9/10 The Miracles, Motown's first group, are the most covered Motown group of all time. I'll do this by at least 3 or 4 parts. Posted by Follower on Tuesday, 04/2/2019 @ 18:34pm. Dolly Parton-Level 2-The only caveat is that she isn't strictly rock 'n' roll, like Miles Davis, Nina Simone or Joan Baez, but with songs like Jolene, Coat of Many Colors, 9 to 5, I Will Always Love You etc, I think she deserves this position . 27. "Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark. The Doors He didn't make ESPN's recent list of the 74 best players ever which is straight dumb. And in each role the actor shines with tools he says hes gained from poetry, his family, and yes, even clown class. Aladdin 123. He took a Magic team with no other All-Stars to the Finals while beating LeBron in LeBron's prime. While Hall of Famers have been assigned a particular level3, there is no ranking within a particular group. Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 23:38pm. I have compiled all of them into the list below with corresponding dates. Neil Young Songs originally recorded by THE MIRACLES later covered by other artists. Move Fleetwood Mac to 4. 10. Kate Bush (Level 1) 63. Oops. Ritchie Valens: 7/10 Dire Straits- 2 "You're So Fine and Sweet" - The Undertakers. For some 50 years !! Most weird inductee? I agree about John Lennon. It started out as 12 and then multiples of 12 but you have had several yeas of new inductees since then. Is it fair to swap players based on one series at the tail end of their careers? 2022 219. "Lower-tier Bob Dylan"? Whitney Houston-5 Finished season 1 of it, its not over. Part 3 coming soon! Also available in . Deep Purple - 3 (maybe 2, but I think they should be on the same level as Aerosmith and Metallica as they most likely influenced them both) "Baby Baby Don't Cry" Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra, Projekt. Led Zeppelin. Dominique Wilkins, 63. Revising lol, Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 05/10/2022 @ 16:06pm. Duran Duran: 8/10 Posted by John R.C on Wednesday, 05/12/2021 @ 23:17pm. "More Love" Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb, Foster Sylvers. "You've Got The Love I Need" - J Dilla, Raekwon. Topic: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid (Read 15782 times) armand_a. Eurythmics (Level 1) Ray Charles didn't make his name in Rock and Roll. The Cure The Pretenders 2. But he's not better than Magic, Kareem, Bird, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan. The person who said The Moody Blues were a 5, c'mon. Level 2: Yes - 2 Posted by The Dude on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:40pm, Posted by The Dude on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:43pm. Foo Fighters-1, but since they're a first ballot HOFer 2 might be more befitting 9/10 = All Time Greats Hall & Oates: 7/10 Roxy Music: 8/10 Sabbath, Metallica, Johnny Cash, R.E.M. *******THE TOP 100 ARTISTS OF ALL TIME:******* If someone HAD to go for him, it would probably be Ray Charles. With the Shaq/Kobe era crumbling against a hungry 2004 Pistons team, Shaquille ONeal tried to save the day with a memorable throwback performance. Did the management of this establishment put you up to this? 46. Todd Rundgren-1, Posted by Corey Finn on Tuesday, 05/18/2021 @ 15:57pm. 2. Walt Frazier. 76. The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 Radiohead: 10/10 Dave Cowens, 35. Should have been first ballot: Black Sabbath! 2Pac :) "I Don't Blame You At All" - Rosetta Hightower. 140. Loudest other then metal: THe Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Who, The Stooges, Public Enemy, Dave Clark Five. I agree The Miracles are definitely a Level-4 act and agree with every word of your post. -Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, James Brown, Aretha Franklin I like a lot of them. The Dells Check out the sidebar on the left for many more excursions into wormhole that is the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Will we remember the 2010s for Curry or LeBron? If you prefer to look at the Hall of Famers in a sortable list, here is where to go. Judas Priest would have been a Level 2 if they were inducted as performers. 49. 14. . Bill Russell was a very important pioneer for the NBA and the modern player, he was a winner, and he was a great leader. Jackson Browne: 7/10 Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble Bo Diddley: 10/10 Would vintage Shaq have been better or worse in 2019? Not many changes to make. 217. The Stooges I know Bill has him higher, but he doesn't have the body of work just yet. As a Beatle, sure, but definitely not as a solo artist. Posted by Bill G on Saturday, 05/11/2019 @ 04:26am. Parliament - Funkadelic: 10/10 John Lennon 110. The Hollies: 3/10 We all know that not all Hall of Famers were equally important to rock and roll history, so the pyramid simply provides an elegant way to illustrate that fact. The Buddy Holly Story [same thing here] 57. Thanks! 2/10 = Failure Deep Purple- 4 Paul Simon: 8/10 He was a Top 10 guy for basically the entire 2010s. Probably Percy Sledge 4/10 = Marginal Carole King: 5/10 Smokey Robinson (and the Miracles) Wes Unseld, 47. All-Star Game Selections by Player; All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player; All-Defensive Team Selections by Player; Referee Awards. Sex Pistols It's well-researched, engaging, and I found myself discovering information about players I never knew. They are a 2 at best. The most obvious one to me is Metallica, who are no brainers for level 4 at least, and could possibly mount a case (admittedly a weak one) for level 5. Posted by Kyle on Wednesday, 07/26/2017 @ 18:50pm. Paul Simon 70. Level 3 by Nash. 197. I did it anyways. As for the newer inductees, HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES. 1988 "Going to a Go-Go" The Rolling Stones, Phil Collins, The Hags, and Secret Affair. Karl Malone, 21. Alice Cooper Is Curry STILL underrated? Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04/28/2016 @ 05:27am. Leonard Cohen: 7/10 Heart- 4 What he has is an inflated reputation. Saving Private Ryan Jay - Z: 10/10 Bill Cathcart WTOC TV 2014 117. 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When I complete the list, I'll link it here so you can read my reasons. Thanks, SHREK, for your bullshit opinion. Bill Sharman, 60. Is Curry already the greatest shooter of all time? Ritchie Valens: 7/10 "Got A Job" The Marcels But as long as they are moved up to the 4th tier, I will not be very disappointed. Before his ACL, he was the best player in the league. The Outsiders I'm not going to wade into these waters. "More, More, More of Your Love" Bob Brady & the Con Chords (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) The luxury of time is that it dispenses with the nonsense, the hipsterism, the favoritism, and leaves the music to stand on its own. As far as the 2013 inductees are concerned and their tier placement is concerned: Carl Perkins: 10/10 "Mickey's Monkey" Mother's Finest, Martha and the Vandellas, The Supremes, The Hollies, The Young Rascals, John Mellencamp, Lou Christie, Cannibal & the Headhunters, The C.A.Quintet, The Defenders, Chris Catena, The Sugar Beats, The Mac Truque. Gene Pitney: 5/10 Hey, the Thunder traded the wrong guy! "A Fork in the Road " Rebbie Jackson 133. Lavern Baker: 6/10 The first part of his career was spent as the alpha, the best player on a title team, and then a distraught MVP candidate surrounded by a bad team. Eddie Cochran Black Sabbath: 10/10 Jay-Z -Level 3 it's 2019 and theAMAZINGcool is making a TRIUMPHANT return !!! Electric Light Orchestra Your Account; Logout; Login; Create Account; You're invited! The Bee Gees 2 18. Lionel Richie: 6/10 Well, if you honestly believe that the king of weepy singer-songwriters James Taylor (who has no business in any HOF other than the consignment store record bin HOF) did more to develop rock 'n roll (not rock music, that's a needless abbreviation) than The Ventures (with the exception of Booker T and the MG's, the most significant instrumental rock 'n roll band of the 1960s), then I have nothing to say (as Oliver Hardy would have said). The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . 11. 10. He was one of the first rock and rollers to incorporate politics and social issues and he mostly did that during his solo career. I actually think that every act up there is almost exactly where they should be. The pyramid has been updated with the latest inductees. The Kinks: 10/10 59. 1989 The Ink Spots That's it. Was this the best-played and most-loaded series of the decade? Posted by John R.C. Bon Jovi The Last Samurai Copyright 2006-2023 futurerocklegends.com, Uncovering the Next Generation's Hall of Fame, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already, http://whoisbigger.com/entity/Category:Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees, http://whoisbigger.com/#sthash.msMujDin.dpuf, https://www.ranker.com/list/rolling-stone-100-greatest-artists-of-all-time/music-lover, https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2019/04/ranking-every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-by-tiers.html, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Miracles_awards_and_achievements, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography, https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/01/every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-ranked-from-best-to-bon-jovi.html. 12. 224. Elvis Presley. -Most influential? T. Rex The Allman Brothers Band I 'll link it here So you can Read my reasons many more excursions into that. 2/10 Exactly, Posted by KING on Monday, 06/29/2015 @ 01:24am group. 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