you rig will protect you. While mountain lion attacks are rare, it is because mountain lions are not common, and interactions between mountain lions and humans are uncommon. 99% of surviving a bear attack is having the brass to stand steady enough to make a good shot. It has been updated through June of 2017. My only proof of that assertion goes back 17 years when I was unkowingly walking my blind dog very near a collared grizzly sow with two cubs. HP ammo may be great for two legged predators, not so much for those with fourand large teeth! Bear is a bear, you underestimate them at your own peril. You have to be a reloader or know a reloader to get this, but it is well worth it. They are considered important in maintaining ecosystems and controlling other animal populations such as deer, its preferred prey. Use a handgun. My gun will push the strong 300-grain hollowpoints to just under 1,200 fps, and thats a formula that can end a confrontation. On average, a mountain lion killed one deer a week. If one only goes out when and where a mild breeze at most is at their back on a sunny day.. Well you get my drift. Natural enemies include other large predators such as bears, lions, and wolves. Fly fishing in AK, and knocking around the woods I often carry a stainless charter target bulldog in 44 special. While not nearly as large as a puma, Ive shot three rabid racoons around here. The best bear gun is, like the best cc gun, the one you have on you when you need it. They invited me out and told me that if I go, be forewarned that there are grizzlies about. My other handgun, my day-to-day gun, is a well-worn Smith & Wesson Model 36, in .38 Special. Ive reached out for three gentlemen all of whom I call a friend for advice and a few experiences regarding their encounters. I would have no reservation about using it on a mountain lion. But please.no one has mentioned marine flares..is the problem that they do not work or that they are too slow to activate. In an ambush situation, if you havent been paying attention, you wont have much time to reactMost of the people I know use the Ruger Alaskan pistols in 44mag minimum, next in popularity is the 454 Ruger Alaskan. For more information about Federal ammunition, click here. Now that is change of Biblical proportions. They will stalk you like one of their prey animals and have no problem catching/ambushing large four legged moose and caribou. The lion was dead before the mule Berry took and shook the lion. sounds like you have too many guns and cant decide on which one to take. Ive been privileged enough to take a couple of black bears in both Quebec and New York and have seen many more while at work and play. It is same size as glock 21 (45 acp) so you can practice with the 45 for a lot cheaper. Again, please keep in mind that we only have black bears to contend with here in New York. Note on BLACK BEARS they have become highly predatory in Alaska. Any thoughts on this combo for bear country? Incidentally I have 2 500 Smith mags, never carry them in bear country. I like the S&W 460 as well. Even then, I havent seen a failure in nearly 10 loadings, at which time I usually get rid of them. The Hodgden #25 manual does show loads for a 200-grain bullet using HS6, Trap100 and HP38 powders. While attempting to release the Grizzly an accident occurred with the bear on top of Caliber: 357 or better. All shots were heart lung ,,,edit,, All shots were attempted heart lung. can of bear spray is your best defense, for within 50 feet. Not enough bullet weight. 8gr 800-X will put some lead into anyones pencil. 6. I want to be able to pump 8 to 18 rounds in his head as fast as I can. It did not take long to realize that the recoil of the .475 with 425gr. From the Noatak to Frazier Lake, Kodiak, Ive seen a lot of bears. The .38 Special is the revolver equivalent of the 9X19 semiauto pistol round, which is, after all, only three years newer a development. These were not accidental sow with cubs, surprised a bear in a dumpster, etc. in bear country. 480 ruger penetrated steel railroad plates by hitting so hard, the steel cracked and shattered. in bullet weight and energy. It is insufficient to break bones in a large animal like bear and isnt intended for that. But again, as the species is protected, they were unable to carry out efforts to catch it. That long pipe makes for a heavier gun, but Im OK with that because the additional sighting distance and small velocity gain are both appreciated. Anyhow, nice article and just consider the glock 10 mm if you are comfortable with a semi-auto tyoe pistol. A long barrel revolver or pistol in very close quarters. The cartridge will push a 180-grain bullet to a respectable 1,300 fps, and that little Kimber has a lot to offer. The Casull is an updated and slightly elongated version of the .45 Colt, fully capable of firing .45 Colt ammunition. .38spl are pretty light loads. of course be loaded and kept down loaded with .38 Special ammo (modern). Its much harder to retrieve spent brass fired from a semi-auto Carry big. But if you are hiking in territories inhabited by mountain lions, they can present a serious danger. Ive literally seen .38 spl ricochet of the skulls of hogs, later being found somewhere between the hide and muscle upon skinning. This is largely down to a lack of resources in their own habitats. No thanks. I was able to aim and take the shot; it tore me up having to kill that nuisance bear that should have been relocated. Trained dogs can be used to capture or kill depredating lions. Hard cast bullets at 1100 fps. delivered him from a mortal fate. He killed the first recorded Texas alligator attack on a man on land EVER! If that is the mountain lion in the background why is it field dressed. Buzz, Hell I wish someone would make a wheel gun for the 416 rem mag. I also recommend if youre down to your last round and the bear is still coming, use the last round on yourself. A starting load of 3.9 grains was decided on, and the first rounds were loaded up. Our neighbor asked if I would come over and put it down. Big hand guns buck like a mule, and even though adrenaline is flowing, that big gun will jump and you will have to push hard for that second shot, The .460 Roland doesnt rise as much as the .45 Colt. I read an article recently that said you are statistically more likely to survive a bear attack using mace rather than a sidearm. Also the .454 C uses a rifle primer to handle the high pressure generated whereas the 45 Colt uses a pistol primer. If you can't gain proficiency and carry something of reasonable power level, then go with spray. Get as informed as you can, and make the best choice you can. closer than 35 feet heading in your direction should be engaged? Bye the time you get out a can of spray and start squirting it at a charging bear, and it starts burning his eyes he will be swallowing your nice juicy rump roast ! As a retired, longtime USMC colonel buddy of mine reminded me a few weeks ago, you should be carrying, always.. Personally, I do my best to avoid any encounter that could turn ugly, but thats not always the case. He told the cameraman Ive killed bears with this gun. The Hornady Critical Defense .410 loads (slug + 2x .35 cal balls) are rated at 750 feet per second. so why risk it. I remember clearly, back in 2002, while surveying in the foothills of the Berkshires a young employee came running up from the point he was supposed to locate, toward the survey instrument I was running. Im curious as to why you only show five rounds of .45 LC with your Ruger. You show five rounds with your .38, six rounds with your Model 29, but all of your pictures with the Ruger .45 only show FIVE. Im not a hunter, but a hiker. On a personal note I dont like Their saliva or blood can kill you even after the animal itself is already dead. Mace or a .45 Colt? Schalow was 10 years old at the time. There are some real men out there who have seen a bear in a zoo and have shot their 500 SW 4 times 6 years ago. .357 Magnum revolver. Yes! I wouldnt recommend anything less than .44 mag or equivalent. However many decades ago, I was a PPC competitor. I load them to just over 1,200 fps. Or even a simple GLOCK 10mm like the A.H.P. Cue the whining about how much of a shame it is to kill such a majestic animal. That being said i would still rather has a single action 44 mag or 45 colt than a 9mm for bear defenseanyday! I own a 45 Colt Ruger Bisley with a 5 1/2 inch barrel ,among other larger caliber handguns , and it is far and away my favorite for handgun hunting or a defensive woods gun. We could provide billions of data bytes and not help with our purpose and goals. The people who shot the cougar had no way of knowing that the cougar had rabies when they shot it. The .45 Colt (L) and .454 Casull (R). That is a political and social problem.. No, they dont. I decently placed 5.56 will kill anything in north america. If you choose a 9mm in bear country, you dont want hollow points but maybe something like Lehigh Defense Extreme Penetratorwith its solid copper bullet. It was the first handgun I ever purchased.. A Sacramento Bee investigation revealed in 2017 that thanks to that language, Californians have killed far more mountain lions since Proposition 117 passed then they did before.. Winchester lists their .410 GA slugs as 1800 feet per second. Mag seemed the best choice, at 100 yds a 375 H&H appeared even better, and at 25 feet a 155 mm didnt seem large enough! Now I know, what to expect and what to carry. With that said, feel free to carry bear spray if you want. Its lack of weight had me cringing at first, expecting some wrist-wrenching recoil, but I was pleasantly surprised with the manageability of the K6s. 7.6225 Red Army Standard 86gr. He has spent more than a bit of time in pursuit of bears, hogs, and other game animals with a handgun, in addition to time spent in the Alaskan game fields. Carry the most powerful gun you can actually effectively use. Though perhaps semi-obsolete, if not obsolete for law enforcement Lions or parts cannot be taken out of Colorado unless inspected and sealed. False economy at that point. The spent shell casings can end up lost in the grass, sagebrush, bushes, woods, You are on the Alaskan highways lets get that straight. 8. I recommended getting a .357 Magnum or a larger caliber. Between 3- and 3.5-inch-wide tracks. Yes I admit this was a freak happening. My close friend and ex-county sheriff assures me that, unless you are acting like an idiot, most sheriffs here in Colorado will just shake your hand and wish you a good day, IF they happen to see your with a magazine with > 15 rounds. Expert trackers look for the following to identify mountain lion tracks: Three lobes at the bottom of the pad. 6+1 capacity, and will group within 3 inches at 25 yds. A Smith & Wesson Model 29, in .44 Remington Magnum completely in the vein of Dirty Harry still makes an excellent choice for the bear woods. At 50yds not much will walk away from a hit with that bullet. Loaded with a hard cast 250 gr bullet at about 1050. You can keep your semi-autos and single action revolvers. Yes, the first round was the fatal round but it didnt stop the bear. According to CPW, Colorado is home to between 3,000 and 7,000 mountain lions. He shot it twice point blank with his 9mm and the hog just shook its head and continued to walk around. He said while the animal tried to bite Pauls head, it didnt actually do it, only slightly clawing the boys back. Definitely not in the same category as a Mounain lion. But I enjoy listening to people who think they know everything prove they dont. All of these four-legged animals that have attacked humans are in my state: I want POWER ! 07-11-2013, 08:10 AM. With a double-action police type service revolver I can unload all six spent shell casings into the palm of my hand and thus I for one have never been bear hunting, always wanted and dreamed of going some day. Of course, I dont live in Alaska, nor have I ever killed a bear. A black bear sow protecting a cub from your invasion of their space will have her way with you till she decides shes done. Carry a 5 S&W 500 loaded with 700 gr hardcast from Ballistic Supply. 10 mm, the old lady behind me at checkout at Cabelas asked me why I was buying so much ammo. Feature Articles, I just wander where his Pistol and the rigging went to. Even Hard cast is king. Local dog hunters said lion are easy to kill and they use a 22lr pistol. Why not? Im somewhat challenged with smartphone technology. First round 00 buckshot then slugs. Not only does it take time to shoot, but it's also not enough to stop a cougar from coming at you. The farmer who owned the lambs also contacted a trapper in hopes that they could do something about the mountain lion. Published on February 15, 2019 02:47 PM. Mr. Massaro, it is men like you who make our country and our military great! It definitely works. I shoot a 44 mag Ruger Redhawk 4 in ss I love it. As far as I am concerned the best handgun for a person is one they are familiar and competent with. coyote-wolf hybrids A Colorado runner who fought off and killed a mountain lion who ambushed him is speaking out about the attack that left him with multiple gashes to his . A handgun was what you might carry out to take a dump at night to make you feel better. Protect your neck, throat, and head. I some what agree. I almost needed a new clean pair of drawers. The lion had killed the livestock but had not eaten them, The Mercury News reported. Mountain lions are a protected species in California. took advantage of this for their hike the following day. The author is right in the close terrain on of the Bitterroors, youre only going to get two shots off and the second one will be point blank. This would include insanely lar. a Ruger Blackhawk, chambered in .45 Colt, stainless finish with a 7 -inch barrel. is excellent. Mountain lions will usually stay within their own habitats and hunt for their own food sources. Do you have a rare 5-shot model, or just down to your last five cartridges for the photo shoot? Not a chance will I ever take those with me here in Alaska, other than around town where bear issues are far more unlikely. The reverse is not true. Mountain lions are a protected species in California. A good friend used to go to Alaska to fish. Yea, a revolver and its speed loaders generally only hold 6 rounds each, but it can be reloaded very quickly. It provides some seemingly good info, but some is just confusing and troublesome. NEDERLAND A mountain lion killed after it attacked two dogs in a neighborhood near Nederland on Dec. 27 had no dog remains in its gut when it died, according to a Colorado Parks and Wildlife necropsy report. They live off the grid and have lots of bear trouble with their livestock. I have skinned three browns, two grizzlies and more black bears than I care to remember. You can love a single action revolver but you wont find an Alaskan guide or hunter carrying one, or a semi-auto pistol without a 45-70 or 338WinMag at the ready. We now have on earth more humans than were ever born since the beginning of mans evolution and with the masses of excess pollution we have already destroyed the planet we are living on. 44 mag is a minimum and it would have to be a DA version. Lmaoand excellent thought below about the 454 brass trimmed down. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This is all interesting to a curious 75 yo ..better for me to stay out of bear country. Traveling with several other people may also help discourage a bear attacking as they usually want the least confrontation unless it is a mother bear protecting her cubs. In the melay to draw his weapon he had hit the magazine release and his magazine fell out. A 45 or 44 mag would be better, but i no longer care to carry the extra weight. So, I got a Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70Gvt. Brutal to shoot, but effective. Next A 45 Long Colt? So dont go shooting just for fun especially on Kodiak. They eventually had to replace them with the Makarov series because of over-penetration. Mountain lions actually have the largest hind legs (proportionally) of all the members of the cat family. Fortunately, I had a spare cap in my pocket. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Carrying a .38 snubbie in bear country is roughly akin to wearing a sandwich board that reads FREE LUNCH! They could see the best place to setup before the Mosquito came out. You have been reading to many comic books. 44 mag power in a high cap auto loader. My advice would be take the largest caliber you can comfortably handle. If doing this with very heavy bullets a change in rifleing twist may be more suitable if longer ranges are expected. A brown bears a Swiss mil-spec mugger, with built-in armor all over, especially around the brain. Do you have a problem with this model? Perry can dispatch a coyote with a Ruger LCP you most certainly could do it with .38 Special +p or not and it will also kill a mountain lion. Lion hides or heads without seals become state property. the reason to own a .38/.357 revolver. Hard cast/ full metal jacket is important in smaller calibers to at least give you penetration. I hope that you had a good camera and a long lens to shoot it. Now, the black bear is generally speaking a rather docile creature, and most of the time it will make every attempt to run away from man. He was knocked down to the ground getting mauled fending off the black bear with his left arm while he drew and fired his semi-auto point blank into the bears throat with his right. Remember one thing in Bear country. A .38 snubby? Hunters killed off mountain lions in the park in the 1930s but the animals moved back in during the 1980s. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. 9. The compilation lists 61 mountain lion attacks that resulted in injuries in the 16 and a half years, and at least 31 cases where attacks were thwarted by aggressive action. In the middle of our camps we kept a ready shotgun on a small folding table so if a quick exit from the tents was called for, everyone at least know where that one was. It would beat the pants off any .44mag for sure. vermin such as raccoon, skunk, possum, etc. reviews, Which brings up the old but true adage. It seems to be a matter of carrying largest caliber you can for the situation, with the proviso that you be able to deliver sufficient rounds on target. That winter, I shot a buffalo @ 50 yards with 300 grain federal cast core in a ruger .44 carbine. Of the pistols that you listed carry the one you shoot best. I have had to kill a couple Grizzlies, and have had numerous Mexican stand offs, over moose or caribou kills. Nope, no way. This attack from 2008 shows the utility of a handgun for defense against predators in the wild. It took two more rounds to bring it down, running about 60 yards. I use it on my sailboat for protection in the Bahamas, to take out boat engines. My point is I would have given $1,000 for any back up gun 38 or bigger. There was a Professor who during the 50s and 60s working with the US Forrest Service..spent a great deal of time studying bears and bear attacks. I carry my Glock G20 SF 10mm when I walk our dogs. Agreed. You go first, Ill watch. Regarding your story about the two men from California who discharged bear spray in their hotel room in their haste to try it out forcing the hotel to gut and refinish the room entirely, of course after evicting the two Californians. It was the first handgun I ever purchased, and I put a considerable amount of thought into it. BTW chest rig is way to go with X frame revolvers. Mountain lions are normally very secretive and cautious. hall county warrant list; delancey street rehab new mexico; frosty hesson wife brenda; atf agent tased; 3d dirt bike games unblocked; curt doussett birth date; , 2 2020. . based on their investigations of human-bear encounters since 1992, persons encountering grizzlies and defending themselves with firearms suffer injury about 50% of the time. Very interesting. This is perfect mountain lion habitat. We live in a world that has an exploding human population and dangerous animals are always the losers. Powerful but lower recoil than a .454 Casull, .460 or a .500 S&W. After watching a grizzly tear apart a moose calf in the Tetons I took my s&w .40 to a pawn shop and traded it for a .41 magnum Taurus tracker with a 4 ported barrel, The S&W .500 was too heavy to carry while hiking. I believe that model Ruger is single action, right? the vast majority of industry gun writers are basically shilling new gear and tend to exist in a repetitive echo chamber with little or no practical experience. Your wife and kids will thank you. Nobody sane confronts a bear with a pistol, the 480 is not perfect for the job. Absolute .357 Mag in a revolver for me is a minimum. Its not the bear in the fight, its the fight in the bear. The Complicated Truth About Mountain Lion Encroachment. Commander. Laboratory work several days after the attack would have indicated rabies. A good read but I dont really see the top handguns to carry. Bears cannot see as well as they can hear and smell. But so "It is unlawful to kill a mountain lion without a permit for the California Department of Fish and . Watch on. This makes cougars great jumpers, able to leap from the ground 18 feet up into a tree. Just my thoughts!! white-tailed deer The Southern California man charged with shooting and killing a protected mountain lion this summer has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and was ordered to serve 240 hours of community service in . Really. If used in a custom 5 shot 45 colt with bullets and a cyl. I was very intrigued by their weapons selection. The only explanation that I can think of is that it was pumped full of adrenaline. I agree, whatever you have at the moment, is the best choice. This is no problem as we are talking about a custom pistol anyway. with my S&W 500 magnum. But in advanced Industrialized Countries your a dying bread of cat. About ten years ago I killed a threatening brown/black bear with a .357 from an SP101 snubby. Perfect gun to have, I dont own one to date but I would love to have a monster K frame, you could practice with 45 long Colts. You have entered an incorrect email address! However, they also prove a nuisance to local livestock. They did better than most 9mm and only slightly less than a 357. They only work if you have them with you. After being carjacked 2 years ago, I WILL NOT be a victim, again. In Colorado, population estimates range from 3,000 to 7,000 mountain lions. Colt Magnum June 7, 2018 At 19:23. Attacks continued and now a lion is dead. A California man has been sentenced to 30 days in jail and other penalties for the killing of a protected mountain lion over the summer. I have seen that cartridge fail horribly on black bears and hogs. He said none. RIP ammo is fine against flesh, as in human flesh. Rifle first if at all possible. I call BS. Are they prudent, not for me. Im more concerned with the organized gang activity here in Denver than all of the wild animal encounters in the universe. Curious if anyone has evaluated any of the older Cold War Warsaw Pact pistols. Any suggestion that a 9mm or 357 magnum is any gun better than none in brown bear country is ridiculous. heat treated WFN LBT now for these situations. 10 mm. Told me to that towards evening they made Camp during Daylight Hours. @ 1,100+ FPS!! And I do practice dry fire and shoot whatever is the cheapest ammo I can find around time. Even had to qualify with it if you carried it as part of your job duties. In fact, a shot from a .357 caliber revolver or a shotgun at close range is more likely to kill a mountain lion than an accidental discharge . 400g hornady JHP on a 300lb hog shot from front, while laying prone, went through the shoulder, traveled full length of body and exited hind-quarter over 2.5 feet of thick, dense, penetration. Yes and no.. If you did, you wouldnt be even considering spray or a souped up .32 pistol round as your primary weapon of bear defense Cripes, just go to zoo and imagine the zoo born and/or raised sleeping pile of fur your looking at, being really pissed off at you, or just curious, and has a closing velocity of over 30 mph. You need to shoot a few of the +Ps every Spring to remember where they are hitting. So, perhaps .45 colt is NOT the best choice for a bear. He veered off, probably because I stopped moving or smelled that I peed my pants. An interesting piece giving advice from expert typewriter shooters to bear hunters. thanks again from a Liberal Gun Toting Okie! I think anybody going into bear country should read the article about bear defense guns and ammo @ garrettcartridges.com This should answer most questions on the subject. I have concerns with shooting the higher pressure .45 LC rounds, like the Buffalo Bore 325 grain load. 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